BMW named in class action over defective convertible tops in BMW E64 (6 Series Convertible) vehicles

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The complaint is brought on behalf of all persons in the United States who purchased or leased any 2004-2010 model year BMW E64 (6 Series Convertible) vehicles (collectively, “Class Vehicles”) imported, distributed, warranted, serviced, repaired and sold by BMW of North America, LLC (“Defendant” or “BMW”).

According to the complaint, since 2004 BMW knew or should have known that the Class Vehicles and their convertible tops contain one or more design and/or manufacturing defects that prevent their convertible tops from completely opening and closing; cause their convertible tops to become jammed into a fixed position; and cause the convertible top operation light to flash, the “top not locked” warning message to appear, and/or an alarm to sound (the “Convertible Top Defect” or “defect”). When this occurs, consumers cannot open the trunk lid and/or are unable to roll the windows up or down.

The Convertible Top Defect, which can cost up to $5,000 to repair or replace, is not simply an economic or aesthetic concern: it is also a serious safety hazard. BMW’s 2005 6 Series Owner’s Manual (“2005 Owner’s Manual”) explicitly identifies the Convertible Top Defect as a dangerous condition: “Driving without having completed the opening or closing action [of the convertible top] can lead to damage or injury.” BMW’s 2006 6 Series Owner’s Manual (“2006 Owner’s Manual”) acknowledges that a “convertible top which is not completely opened or closed presents a danger.”

According to the complaint, BMW knew and concealed the Convertible Top Defect that is contained in every Class Vehicle, along with the attendant dangerous safety problems and associated costs, from Plaintiff and the other Class Members at the time of sale and thereafter.

Despite notice of the defect from numerous consumer complaints, dealership repair orders, as well as various other sources, BMW has not recalled the Class Vehicles to repair the Convertible Top Defect, has not offered all of its customers a suitable repair or replacement free of charge, and has not offered to reimburse all Class Vehicles’ owners and leaseholders who incurred costs relating to repair or replacement of the convertible tops.


Thomas B. said
1486 days ago
I have a 2005 mini cooper convertible. which is also made by BMV\W with the same problem. Mini wants to charge me $5000 to have the top repaired. They said that there is a clip in it that needs to be replaced, which probably cost about $100, but I have to buy the WHOLE "KIT" for just that one part. All of the other parts in that kit are not needed. I have searched the web, and found out, that other mini owner, are having the same problem. I have a 2005 mini convertible, with only 20,000 miles on it, barely used. I was wondering if the mini cooper convertibles are included in this lawsuit, and how do we proceed with this if they are included in the suit.

Thank you,

Thomas Bianco


Sybil B. said
1428 days ago
I am experiencing my 2nd issue with the convertible top on my 2005 645ci. The first time, I took it to the BMW dealer and they're placed a sensor because it said it was unlocked, but is appeared to be closed. Yesterday (8/24), I opened the top and took a 30 minute drive. When I arrived back home, I proceeded to close the convertible. The top came forwarded and closed. The back window went up halfway and stopped, and the remaining windows did not move. I assumed it got stuck, so I attempted to put it back down and it would not move. I got out to check the trunk, and it would not open with my remote or the interior button, so used my key. I closed the partition, and reopened and locked it again. I got back in the car and the top it still would not move. I manually closed the front and side mirrors. The back window will not move and is stuck midway. When I got up today(8/25), I tried all of these procedures again and it is still not working.


jimmy c. said
1246 days ago
I have the same exact issue with my 6 series.....645ci to be exact 2004 and I drive down the freeway sometimes and my top fly's open from it being unlocked due to this electric top defect...I almost crashed a few times....i wouldn't mind joining a class action law suit.


Ambrogio G. said
1245 days ago
I have been having the same issue with my 2007 650i what can be done?!


Sherry K. said
1243 days ago
Same here, multiple times with my 2005 645ci. When I get it fixed this time, I'm selling it. My dream car has turned out to be a nightmare.


Donato C. said
1227 days ago
Same problem as everyone else. What are they going to do? Probably nothing until someone gets hurt.


andy g. said
1201 days ago
Wow I have a 2006 650i same problem you don't know when the sensor is going to have a bad read, and I don't feel comfortable driving the vehicle anymore. Had several visits to the dealer about the issue and nothing is resolved.


Wilfredo S. said
1199 days ago
I have the same problems with 645ci convertible in Puerto Rico some time beging raining I m worry for this problem its make me crazy. I dont know what to do?


Eric S. said
1197 days ago
I have 2010 with same issue Sybil described!


said
1195 days ago
I am experiencing the same issue with my 2006 650i. Windows were stuck down and top would not go down. They replaced the sensor and by the following summer the top would not go down and the sensor was blinking red. I love the car, but am ready to trade it for another car.


Judi S. said
1194 days ago
I just had my top repaired at the dealership. Bad sensor they told me. This is a 2007 model with 52000 miles, babied by original owner and garage kept. It looks like new. I can't believe when you buy the car, they actually give you the spiel about keeping the top down, only to find out maybe that wasn't such a good idea. Why have a convertible?


Lisa B. said
1191 days ago
last summer I came home and attempted to close the top of my 2004 645ci, it closed 3/4 of the way then didnt move. I repeated tried to get it locked and thankfully got it closed but it did say it wasnt locked. The dealership spent a week looking at it, called to say they tried it and it now worked. Fast forward to spring 2014 when I got it out of storeage. Side windows go down, back one doesnt and roof will not disengage to go down. Of course the trunk only works with the key at this point. FRUSTRATED!


Liz L. said
1183 days ago
I have a 2008 650i with the same issues.


James G. said
1181 days ago
I have the same problem like everyone else, what can be done
About this. I love my converse but don,t trust it.


Anastasia C. said
1175 days ago
I've had the same problem for at least 4 years. My 2005 645ci has been to the dealership numerous times while under extended warranty (thank GOD I purchased one). The sensor was replace and on another occasion they kept my car over a week and a half to rebuild or rework the top and still the dreaded "top not locked" message.

Today I let the top down for the first time this year, I closed the top and the same error message along with the red flashing light appears.

I'm really concerned for my safety and upset with the fact that I owned convertible and cannot enjoy it.


Cole O. said
1175 days ago
I have a 2008 650i that just ceased to operate correctly. The roof will not go down and have taken it into a specialist who told me he could not fix it.

What is the deal with this, how can BMW not do anything about this especially when it seems to be across the board. I now seem to have a convertible that cannot be enjoyed. I have a scheduled drop-off with an actual dealership later this week and am pretty concerned about how much this is about to cost.


Stephan O. said
1167 days ago
I am having the same problem with my 2005 645 ci. Light is blinking , trunk won't open unless you use the key. Warning lights going off every time you slow down. A convertible I can't enjoy. Need a class action suit.


ari c. said
1165 days ago
I am having the same problem with my 2005 645 ci light is blinking trunk wont open unless you use the key warning light goingoff .convertible top unlocked


Bobby P. said
1163 days ago
The temporary solution is to smack the Convertible Top Sensor (a.k.a. Angle of Rotation Sensor). It is located in the rear driver's side of the convertible top, toward the top, just behind the rear side glass. If your top is closed and the red light is blinking, a few good whacks on the interior panel (you will feel the frame there, as the sensor is attached to the frame) should get the light to turn off, restoring functionality to the top. When I notice that the top is moving sluggishly, I know complete failure is imminent. This is the most advantageous time to perform a little adjustment. While the rear tips of the convertible top are in the UP position, pause the operation, stand by the driver's side rear wheel, and look inside the back of the top. You will see a little housing with several thin wires connected via a small wire harness. This is the convertible top sensor. Grasp the wire harness and wiggle it a bit. This has worked for me 100% of the times I have done it. The top moves at full speed again and gives me a good 8-10 uses before I have to tend to it again. The long term solution is to have the sensor replaced with a new one that was manufactured after August 2005, which is when the points in the sensor were made to be less sensitive, thereby reducing the error messages being reported to the computer by the sensor. My local dealer gave me a price of $116 for the sensor. It looks easy enough for the owner to replace without professional assistance. I hope this helps a few of you.


Louis S. said
1161 days ago
As of may 17,2014 I purchase hey 650 I 2007 BMWand I've had a convertible top problem twice now my window is stuck In a down positionand I don't know what to do with it what is the issue


a Down prison










Louis S. said
1161 days ago
As of may 17,2014 I purchase hey 650 I 2007 BMWand I've had a convertible top problem twice now my window is stuck In a down position I don't know what to do with it what is the issue


a Down prison










Genell M. said
1147 days ago
My top is closed but it's saying it's not locked. The trunk won't open, the top won't go back, and the glass in the rear is stuck.. I have a 05' 645ci convertible


Fredrick M. said
1144 days ago
I have a 650i bmw convertible i was getting a message that read top not locked i tried to let the top down and back up to lock it now my windows are stuck half way down i have to use the key to unlock the truck.


jeffery b. said
1142 days ago
I have 2005 645ci convertible with the same issues stated above. i would have to atleast 3x a week not use the convertible top becuase its locked in a up position half way. usually the back portion of the convertible does not open leaving the top in a half way locked position with the lights blinking. or will not fully close and having a warning convertible not fully locked. windows will not go up or down. alarm sounds off when this happens when car is in parked.


Robert . said
1142 days ago
I have a 2006 650i conv same problem top wont go up stuck 3/4 way windows stuck deck lid locked ben a problem for a long time had sensor replaced enlarged holes per bmw tsb still not working ? need help bmw dealer does good work high but they cant fix a problem bmw created


John C. said
1140 days ago
Same problems in the shop all the time BMW already replaced the top one three years ago now I have issues with the top again.


William O. said
1133 days ago
I had temporarily solved the problem on numerous occasions similar to Bobby P (above) by running my hand over rear sensor. I also stopped trying to put roof up or down when either too hot or too humid, which seemed to work. However I nailed a huge bump on I77 in WV (thanks WV Highway Dept) and since then the warning lights have been on and top is inoperable. When I ask BMW dealership if they can fix, they say be prepared to leave for at least 3 days. Where is the recall?


Heidi P. said
1130 days ago
Add me to the list. Last year bought at 2004 645ci and just started having problems with the top, stopping mid stream, warning light saying it's not locked. My regular mechanic couldn't figure out what was wrong, brought it to the dealer who said it was a sensor on the lid rod. Replaced the sensor, still had problems. Now saying it's a short in the wiring harness and want to charge $3,000.00 to replace the entire harness. Can't believe the dealer didn't disclose the problems these tops have. Working with my regular BMW mechanic to figure out what to do. After reading all of the comments here, may just bring it home and park it back in the garage. Will try the temporary fix posted by Bobby P. What a shame, guess BMW doesn't care about their reputation or the experience of their customers? Too bad.


Heidi P. said
1130 days ago
Add me to the list. Last year bought at 2004 645ci and just started having problems with the top, stopping mid stream, warning light saying it's not locked. My regular mechanic couldn't figure out what was wrong, brought it to the dealer who said it was a sensor on the lid rod. Replaced the sensor, still had problems. Now saying it's a short in the wiring harness and want to charge $3,000.00 to replace the entire harness. Can't believe the dealer didn't disclose the problems these tops have. Working with my regular BMW mechanic to figure out what to do. After reading all of the comments here, may just bring it home and park it back in the garage. Will try the temporary fix posted by Bobby P. What a shame, guess BMW doesn't care about their reputation or the experience of their customers? Too bad.


Heidi P. said
1130 days ago
Add me to the list. Last year bought at 2004 645ci and just started having problems with the top, stopping mid stream, warning light saying it's not locked. My regular mechanic couldn't figure out what was wrong, brought it to the dealer who said it was a sensor on the lid rod. Replaced the sensor, still had problems. Now saying it's a short in the wiring harness and want to charge $3,000.00 to replace the entire harness. Can't believe the dealer didn't disclose the problems these tops have. Working with my regular BMW mechanic to figure out what to do. After reading all of the comments here, may just bring it home and park it back in the garage. Will try the temporary fix posted by Bobby P. What a shame, guess BMW doesn't care about their reputation or the experience of their customers? Too bad.


Carlos B. said
1124 days ago
I have the same issue with my vehicle. I just dropped it off at the service dept waiting for them to call me back. Is there a lawsuits in place and has it been settled yet?


Rick B. said
1121 days ago
My 2008 m6 often says "convertible top not locked" when in fact it is locked. It is extremely distracting and unsafe to drive with the repeated warning and not knowing if it is really unlocked or not w/o pulling over and verifying.


Norm B. said
1121 days ago
Exactly the same issues. Too not locked, blinking light, windows stuck in down position, trunk won't open and notification saying drive careful/reduce speed


Gerry B. said
1117 days ago
I have the same problem.


Mike D. said
1117 days ago
I have the same problem and it is a pain. I just bought the car and many little defects not only this one. It also has a Valve cover issue that causes the car to smoke after sitting and warmed up. customers are paying huge repair costs and it does not fix the root cause which is in the valve cover.
the top is normally a sensor but causes many problems and difficulties.


Sybil B. said
1104 days ago
Hi, this is Sybil and my convertible top is stuck in the closed position again with the light blinking. It's been approximately one year from my 1st post. This is ridiculous. When is BMW going to own up to this fiasco.


khalfani s. said
1100 days ago
I have the same issue it's a sensor issue that bmw knows about but won't fix it ducks how do I join the class action lawsuit for this


edward b. said
1093 days ago
hi, I have a 2005 645 conv.with the same problems first the back window would not go down .Now the top will not lock and the window is still. down


Chris M. said
1087 days ago
I am having the same issue. Top will not go down windows locked. When will BMW admit fault and fix the proble. Time to buy a Mercedes. BMW is a joke!


iris N. said
1085 days ago
Yes, same problems on occassion. Also, I have had multiple problems with the computer in my dashboard, often station no "sos" capability and then no radio, cd, gps, for as long as the car likes. Meaning u have to wait until the computer resta Still happening too and I've given up because no matter how many pictures and documentation you keep, it still happens and bmw doesn't know why.


Jeff M. said
1082 days ago
Bought a used 2007-650i convertible with very low miles. Within weeks the red light started blinking stating that the top was not closed/locked. Usually occurs after the car has been setting outside in the heat. Three times my BMW mechanic has attempted to get a diagnostic error code from the car without any results. Finally got an error code about the "cowl" locking motor in the roof. Had it replaced and the red light came on again the next time I put the roof down. The second time I put the roof down, the front/back of the roof stuck in a "V" position when the deck lid would not open. One again, the mechanic could not get an error code and after 15 minutes it fixed itself ??????? Mechanic thinks the wiring harness has a short.


Peter F. said
1080 days ago
I do not have this problem. But then I don't own this car lol


cindy g. said
1079 days ago
Is anyone having an issue like this with the 3 series?


broderick g. said
1077 days ago
same problem with my 645ci. Im scared to drop the top in fear it wont close. great service bmw. NOT


Mike P. said
1053 days ago
Same problem. Sometimes top wont open. Other times it closes halfway. Getting to the point that I'm scared to drop it down anymore. This car should NOT be having this issue.


Marie W. said
1048 days ago


Marie W. said
1048 days ago
I bought this vehicle 6 months ago 650I 2006 having problems with the top not working. bought a warranty thinking it would help . took it to bmw warranty states now they don't cover after bill. I was told not to by used bmw but They got the best looking convertibles not good cars.


Joseph B. said
1047 days ago
I don't own the car but I had one that was bought at the Chrysler dealer I work at and I was the mechanic that had to inspect the car. Of course the top worked perfectly fine when the car was traded in but I inspect it and put the top down and created a nightmare for myself because now I'm getting blamed for breaking the car and may have to come out of pocket to repair it....


Jerome R. said
1046 days ago
I have a 2005 BMW 645 convertible and I have the same problems with my convertible top. I will gladly contribute for attorney's fees if we can press forward with obtaining help from BMW to fix the defect.


Jerome R. said
1046 days ago
I have a 2005 BMW 645 convertible and I have the same problems with my convertible top. I will gladly contribute for attorney's fees if we can press forward with obtaining help from BMW to fix the defect. I have always loved the car from the day I test drove it, took delivery and had it many years. Mine still looks like new - only 46,000 miles on it and I have no interest in buying another car but BMW needs to step up and do the right thing for us.


Carol S. said
1039 days ago
I have a 2007 645 BMW and I am bringing in my car for the 4th time due to the sensor locking my trunk, having the top jam in the middle of lowering it or raising it. I'm done!!!! I only have 54,000 miles and my dealer said they knew nothing of it when I purchased it.


Shawn C. said
1037 days ago
I have a 2006 650i and in extreme heat Windows and top gets stuck at bmw for 3rd time


Shawn C. said
1037 days ago
I have a 2006 650i and in extreme heat Windows and top gets stuck at bmw for 3rd time


Steven L. said
1034 days ago
I have the same issue with my BMW 645ci.....the top actually came upon on the freeway and blow back...because it couldnt lock due to faulty wiring setup that cause the convertable top to get stuck..im interested in assisting...if it helps i crashed once due to the top coming un done another time....my email is stevenlee122213@gmail.com


Steven L. said
1034 days ago
I have the same issue with my BMW 645ci.....the top actually came upon on the freeway and blow back...because it couldnt lock due to faulty wiring setup that cause the convertable top to get stuck..im interested in assisting...if it helps i crashed once due to the top coming un done another time....my email is stevenlee122213@gmail.com


Steven L. said
1034 days ago
I have the same issue with my BMW 645ci.....the top actually came upon on the freeway and blow back...because it couldnt lock due to faulty wiring setup that cause the convertable top to get stuck..im interested in assisting...if it helps i crashed once due to the top coming un done another time....my email is stevenlee122213@gmail.com


Cathy L. said
1034 days ago
I'm in FL and trying to pack to go home to SC after a month. Usually put the top down to pack the back seat. Last night, it wouldn't open, and is giving a warning signal that indicates it's not locked. I'm terrified to try to drive 10 hours in this condition, and can't even get the hatch open to put the wind deflector in it. Would be very interested in participating in the class.


Denis B. said
1028 days ago
my top on my 2007 650i wont open and the sensor alarm says the top is not locked


George M. said
1028 days ago
This works for me every time! On the drivers side of the car between the main rear window and smaller window, push lightly on the convertible top near the middle from the interior. Red light goes away and the top is working again.


Steve S. said
1024 days ago
What George said works. I have done it for 2 years. Google it and someone has pics as to where you should touch on the roof liner. I hope someone files a class action suit soon...before I sell it. If it is a viable case, I'll be a named plaintiff.


Johnathan S. said
1022 days ago
I have had the the same issue with my convertible top. BMW should step up and fix this problem, for free!


Douglas W. said
1021 days ago
I have a 2007 BMW 650i with the "convertible not locked issue." I've taken it to the dealer multiple times and had the lock replaced twice. I am still getting the dreaded message.


RALPH C. said
1018 days ago
SI B54 17 06
Special Roofs June 2011
Technical Service

This Service Information bulletin supersedes SI B54 17 06 dated November 2006.

designates changes to this revision

SUBJECT
Convertible Top Does Not Completely Open or Close

MODEL
E64 (6 Series Convertible)

situation
The customer may notice that the convertible top will either not completely open or close. The convertible top appears to be completely open or closed, yet the red top operation light continues to flash and the “top not locked” message appears.


RALPH C. said
1018 days ago
bmw was aware and provided a solution.


brian c. said
1011 days ago
Same issue with '05 645ci


JOLAN S. said
1010 days ago
I have a 2005 645ci and the top opens halfway an gets stuck.. I am afraid too open it because it might get stuck open an I need my car to get to work and my kids to school. I paid to much for my car an cant enjoy it.


Richard F. said
1010 days ago
My 645 convertible top will either not completely open or close. The convertible top appears to be completely open or closed, yet the red top operation light continues to flash and the “top not locked” message appears.


Fred Y. said
1009 days ago
2008 bmw 650ci , have had sensors adjusted an d works for awhile and red light flashes not locked. Not acceptable for a vehicle costing this much. Bmw needs to step up on this issue.


Fred Y. said
1009 days ago
2008 bmw 650ci , have had sensors adjusted an d works for awhile and red light flashes not locked. Not acceptable for a vehicle costing this much. Bmw needs to step up on this issue.


Fred Y. said
1009 days ago
2008 bmw 650ci , have had sensors adjusted an d works for awhile and red light flashes not locked. Not acceptable for a vehicle costing this much. Bmw needs to step up on this issue.


Fred Y. said
1009 days ago
2008 bmw 650ci , have had sensors adjusted an d works for awhile and red light flashes not locked. Not acceptable for a vehicle costing this much. Bmw needs to step up on this issue.


Michael B. said
1005 days ago
Very similar issues as well as wiring harness/electrical issues. My car has been very well maintained and driven with care since it has been on the road; no accidents. I've owned BMW's now for over 15 years. One of their key marketing pitches is no maintenance costs for the first 3 years or 50,000 miles. Having been an owner for over a decade the BMW accountants have steadily eroded the value of the warranty -- based on personal experience it's clear that BMW has been making every effort to keep warranty costs down. Very costly repairs for critical components has become the norm with BMW (similar components don't seem to wear out on competing high end brands - certainly not as rapidly). The repair costs of many of these items should be covered by BMW but instead are ignored by the manufacturer. Unfortunately many BMW enthusiasts have become cynical and believe the only way to drive a trouble free BMW is to buy/lease a new vehicle every 3-5 years. This fact is the reflection of a growing group of dissatisfied owners. It is infuriating to spend $75,000 - 100,000+ and have to deal with these kinds of issues. The same investment could be directed to a TESLA which will outperform the BMW in many categories, provide significantly lower overall operating costs and many repair issues can be performed without ever leaving your driveway via the WEB with a simple download and refresh. I have never joined a class action suit in the past but will gladly be a named plaintiff or join in the class if counsel will bring the case before a court.


Menard W. said
999 days ago
Hello everybody I'm french so please excuse my poor english...
My father is the owner of a BMW 650i E64 and today the same problem occured.....
I found the solution on the internet, it's very simple and "old School" : you just have to press by the hand the movement sensor inside the roof.... here is the link to the forum who share the solution: http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=226403&page=5
I hope i was helpfully for some of you........


Karol G. said
995 days ago
Just happened to my 2008 650i and can't open truck either.

Is a lawsuit being filed?


Daniel M. said
995 days ago
My 2005 BMW 645Ci, Halloween Night, 2014. I open the top to enjoy a cooler autumn breeze in Palm Beach County. It was too chilly. Put the roof back up, sarn BMW repetitive chime and red warning light NOT locked illumates and my son's Halloween candy is locked in the trunk....


Bharat S. said
986 days ago
I've had the same problem with my 2005 645ci, took it to BMW multiple times while it was under warranty without any long lasting improvements. Now I continue to get error messages when the top is up. Made better temporarily by whacking that spot behind the driver side rear window. Definitely warrants a lawsuit. I payed for a vehicle with the expectation of quality and reliability.


Blake S. said
974 days ago
I have the same issues as below I would like to join as well!


Blake S. said
974 days ago
I have the same issues as below I would like to join as well!


Blake S. said
974 days ago
I have the same issues as below I would like to join as well!


Tony M. said
969 days ago
I'm having this issue on my 2008 650i which I purchased 2 weeks ago. I went on line to the check out the issue on the Bimmerfest forum and I see where several have experienced this same issue.


Tony M. said
969 days ago
I'm having this issue on my 2008 650i which I purchased 2 weeks ago. I went on line to the check out the issue on the Bimmerfest forum and I see where several have experienced this same issue.


Curtis L. said
965 days ago
I'm having the same issue. Red light is flashing and cannot roll up my windows or open my truck unless I use the key. I've had it in the shop 2 times previously and this continues to be an issue.


Blake S. said
949 days ago
I'm having the same problem and had to replace the pump on my own dime. Bmw should have recalled this!


Shaun D. said
934 days ago
The ultimate driving nightmare ...Add me 2005 645 Car looks stunning beautiful car ,just so many problems convertible top issue is just the latest ,will never buy another BMW and will tell anyone who will listen the same , Dear BMW remember what happened to Audi in the 80s they couldn't give them away , I see BMW following the same path.


Shaun D. said
934 days ago
Yes the pressing or taping the roof behind the drivers door(inside) did work when the problem first came up but now does not ..... And you know I expect to hit a black and white tv when it looses picture not a $70,000 dollar car


Jerry M. said
928 days ago
I was actually in process of purchasing a 2008 BMW 650I Conv for my retirement car and I am currently reading everyone's emails and WOW am I really concerned and overjoyed that I read your sounding board prior to purchasing my dream car. Thanks for taking the time to educate the parties who were not aware of these issues. I'm shocked that BMW is allowing this to happen!


Ryan B. said
925 days ago
E64 M6 not working at all, top is completely freezing midway thru opening. Nightmare of a car!


Jerome R. said
921 days ago
Is anyone aware of any movement on this issue? Is there an ongoing class action?


Jerome R. said
921 days ago
Is anyone aware of any movement on this issue? Is there an ongoing class action?


Jay C. said
903 days ago
Crap in just happend to me Closed top , windows halfway, red light on. I can get in my trunk with the key in the trunk BMW wats $300 to check it out. WTH they know what the issue is


Wayne G. said
899 days ago
Add me to the list also. I bought my 04 BMW 645ci and I hhaven't driven it for a while now. My convertible top gets stuck too many times. It freezes midway and the dealership says it costs a lot of money to fix it.


D. B. said
899 days ago
2007 650i which just started doing the roof thing soon as the deal was done on buying the car. Seems so wrong, BMW needz to Step UP and just take care of this. Rather its the wires up there and or in conjunction with a replacement sensor. Whatever, just get it done ....... damn!


Kevin M. said
898 days ago
I have a 2006 bmw 650I with 29,000 miles with the exact same issues.


Jerome R. said
890 days ago
I exchanged a series of emails with Mike Miller, BMW CCA Roundel Technical editor soliciting his about what we could do to persuade BMW, NA to repair our convertible issues at no cost to us. Mike had a couple of suggestions for us:

1) Out of warranty BMW owners can always ask a dealership service manager for good will warranty repair, which if granted, will cover parts or labor, or both. The worst that can happen is nothing, so it can’t hurt to ask.

2) contact BMW NA Customer Service at www.bmwusa.com or by calling 800-831-1117. Before you do that you should speak with your dealership service manager, not the service adviser. Customer service is likely to refer you to the dealer.

Choices include paying for the repair, living with the problem, selling or trading the vehicle, or the legal option, if available.


Jerome R. said
887 days ago
I located a US District Court for the district of New Jersey opinion that dismissed part of the class action suit and upheld other parts of the class action suit. The decision is dated May 28, 20145 and can be found at this address: http://cases.justia.com/federal/district-courts/new-jersey/njdce/2:2013cv03417/290206/21/0.pdf?ts=1411595054

I talked to the Melbourne, Florida service manager today and he informed me that replacing the convertible top sensor would cost about $330. I also emailed him the web addresses for our numerous complaints, the court decision, and information from the Bavarian Auto Blog to see if I can convince him to correct the problem as part of BMW and dealership "Goodwill." We shall see!


said
884 days ago
I have owned a 2007 bmw 650i I'm having the same exact problem.


Jerome R. said
883 days ago
We should all call and write BMW, NA at www.bmwusa.com and 800-831-1117 and ask BMW to repair our convertible roof operations at no cost to us. We should also inform BMW, NA about this site and the numbers of us complaining about the same problem which is obviously a design flaw. Let's hold BMW accountable for this obvious design flaw!


said
880 days ago
I had to replace the top position sensor, it now seems to work okay.


said
880 days ago
7448 N Calle Sin Desengano


Jerome R. said
880 days ago
If you don't mind, did you have the sensor replaced at a BMW dealer or an independent repair shop and how much were you charged? Thanks!


said
880 days ago
An independant BMW repaair shop Euro performance world replaced the top positioning sensor on my 2005 645 for $426.07 on 4-16-14.


Jim W. said
869 days ago
I have a 2005 MINI S Convert. that was built in November of 2004. We have had to replace the top cables 3 times due to their breaking. We were told (and have read in a reputable publication) that this has been a known issue with the 2005 tops. They made a change to the system for the 2006 builds. It seems BMW/MINI knew of the issues with the convert. tops.


Jerome R. said
868 days ago
Jim, sorry you are having similar problems with your car. To help ourselves and each other, we all need to continually remind BMW or our presence, and our love of BMW vehicles, but we will not yield on this point and BMW needs to step up and take care of the problem!


Debbi B. said
867 days ago
I am having the same issue with my 2005 Mini Cooper Convertible. Wondering if this model is included in the class action. I can't get my convertible top down.


Dario C. said
860 days ago
My 2005 645 was parking in the garage for three months with a trickle charger, so no battery issue. Started the car to take I outside and the convertible top warning light came on and I cannot turn it off, going to try the Boseman Push.


rob k. said
845 days ago
I bought my 2005 645ci in Nov 2015. I had them demo the top and the trunk stuck. The manager knew what to do, but didn't tell me it was a known continuous problem. It finally got warm enough and the top went down, but when I tried to put it up, it went until the rear window went partly up and froze. I wiggled the wires and got the window up, but now the red light randomly lights up and locks me out of my trunk.


rob k. said
845 days ago
2014


Fred J. said
834 days ago
Same problem. Just let top down and sensors on now. When can we sue?


Alexei M. said
833 days ago
I have the same problem I purchased my 2005 645ci in June 2013. It was fixed by the seller drove and the problem occurred again I drove the car to a BMW Dealership and was told the sensor was bad and also needed to be realigned!!! The cost a small sum of money $750.00 I was not a happy camper. I was under the impression the fix would last!!! Not so no one told me it was a known continuous problem. The top is locked windows are up, but now the red light randomly lights up and locks me out of my trunk. When will something be done to resolve this defect at BMW’s expense???


scott f. said
832 days ago
same problem, 2007 bmw m6 ugh


Jerome R. said
832 days ago
I bit the bullet and took my car to an independent repair shop I've used before. The problem was with the rear window mechanism. Parts and labor were about $1,000 but I finally can enjoy the benefits of having a convertible and I no longer have to listen to that incessant dinging and warning light!


KENNER H. said
829 days ago
SAME PROBLEM, COUNT ME IN


Robert P. said
828 days ago
Same problem with 2007 BMW M6. Had sensor "adjusted" several times from August 2012 - September 2013. Had sensor replaced 9/25/2013. No issues until today, 4/16/2015. Same problem, window won't retract and message stating that top is not locked. Ugh...


Richard H. said
827 days ago
My '06 650i with 58k miles. First time was about 2 mo nths ago. Then nothing unyil last week. I'm sure BMW has a fix for this, right?


Osvaldo A. said
822 days ago
This is not fair to all BMW customers. BMW need to fix this problem and this is a safety issue and not just an aesthetic concern. Having the same problem with the top and trunk.


Stephen M. said
816 days ago
same problem with my 04 645ci conv. It does have a G spot on the top inside behind the drivers side.If the blinking RED light comes on just rub this spot and its fixed to allow adjustment again. Less costly than 1k to fix.


Kenneth R. said
814 days ago
I have experienced this same issue on my 2005 645ci convertible. The top is completely unresponsive. My car's VIN is: WBAEK73485B327987. Please e-mail me as soon as possible to discuss this matter


ROBERT W. said
814 days ago
Experienced the same issue yesterday as all the complains noted above with the top not working. This is an expensive car, yet BMW treats us like we bought a Smart Car. What is with the class action suit?


Erkut K. said
807 days ago
Hi all, I have the same issue with other folks. 05 645ci with 56K miles. Please add me also. Its ridiculous that BMW doesn't stand behind of this high end product..


Rafael O. said
806 days ago
Convertible tops in BMW E64 (6 Series Convertible) vehicles for over 3 years and each time I've gone to the dealeership for repairs has been costly. On one occasion several sensors were replaced, On another trip the unlocking sensor was also replaced 2 other times. Now today I recieve a call from the service representative telling me that if the tops frame now causing destorted and deformed with a wopping cost of 22,000.00 repair cost. What hell is that? An $81.000.00 vehicle when purchase and the last 5 years nothing but issues with the top, window in the rear not coming back up, passenger windows half way up then going down several times before you and secure your vehicle. WOW!


Jayvonne M. said
803 days ago
650 I with the same not locked issue and the truck won't open with button


said
802 days ago
2010 650 with same issues. Indicator light on when top locked unable to open trunk. Just received estimate from Braman BMW $1,000 to replace sensor and some other part.


Diane W. said
802 days ago
I have 2010 650 convertible 45,000 miles bought new and garage kept. Having same issues with indicator light coming on when top in locked position and unable to open trunk. Just got estimate from Braman BMW $1,000 + to replace sensors and some other related part.


Richard F. said
797 days ago
I'm having same problems. One with the sensor when it is close as this morning my top wouldn't completely close.


D.S. B. said
793 days ago
Mine as well. Works when it wants to, 2007 650I. Works fine then goes halfway up, and then sticks. Hitting the sweet spot as someone mentioned, behind the Driver side Rear Quarter Window seems to do the trick. As the sensor and wires are in there . But its just that, A TRICK. BMW NEEDS TO AND SHOULD take care of this. COUNTLESS and many a people are getting in situations where they cannot even move there vehicle BECAUSE, THEIR car is looking like a broken TRANSFORMER! And I AM NOT PLAYING BUBBLE BEE ;-) I am joking BUT, this is NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO laughing matter. I AM SORRY FOR THIS PROFANITY. BUT, BMW... STOP THIS SHIT AND FIX THIS . YOUR PANTS ARE DOWN, IT IS ON YOU IN SO MANY WAYS IT WOULD MAKE A HOOKER JEALOUS! Ducking and Dodging a known problem SHOULD BE ON YOU. AND VERY FREE OF CHARGE . ORIGINAL OWNER OR NOT. IF IT WAS FIXED UNDER WARRANTY BEFORE THEN, POSSIBLY FINE. BUT IF U PUT A CUSTOMER VIN NUMBER IN AND IT SAYS THIS FIX WAS NOT PERFORMED BEFORE THEN SHUT AND JUST FIX IT. AND IF THERE IS A NEW OWNER SINCE THE FIX WAS APPLIED YOU ARE STILL LIABLE. FIX AT A TREMENDOUS DISCOUNT OR SOMETHING. YOUR STILL LIABLE BECAUSE U KNEW ABOUT THIS PROBLEM SINE 2004 AND IT CONTINUES TO HAPPEN. Just make the SHIT DIFFERENT. NOT SO FAULTY. MY PARTICULAR VEHICLE SOLD FOR AROUND $116,000. CANT BELIEVE YOU WONT JUST HANDLE THIS. I cOULD GO ON FOR DAYS BUT,THIS IS IT FOR Now! P.S. FIX THIS SHIT !


xavier f. said
788 days ago
Im irritated with mine!!! What do I do ??


Leo S. said
788 days ago


Michele S. said
787 days ago
I have a 2009 Mini Cooper convertible with top issues as well...


Atul K. said
784 days ago
Ditto issues with 2006 650


said
782 days ago
I'm having the same issue 2005 645ci, red light blinking on and off same message convertible top unlocked. Trunk will not but with the key. Has anyone contacted an attorney?


Dennis C. said
781 days ago
2005 645 ci -i have had problems with the top for years -same problems


Ryan H. said
780 days ago
I have a 2006 BMW 650i that also experiences this issue. The top starts opening until it gets to the point where it needs to open the trunk to continue, but it gets stuck. I have tried hitting the "sweet spot" behind the driver's side but I never have any luck. At this point it's a lottery as to whether I will be able to open the top on any given day.


Allen H. said
774 days ago
I have a 2007 650i with the same issue as the many people above. It is a beautiful car but i am afraid to drive it because of the top issues. Please Help!


Allen H. said
774 days ago
I have a 2007 with the same issues. Please Help!!!!


Terrie T. said
768 days ago
2007 650i. Windows stuck halfway down


Lance L. said
766 days ago
I have a 2005 mini cooper convertible where I have to spend several hundreds of dollars to get it fixed and working. Is there a class action law suit I can join to get restitution for the repair bills I have incurred?


Janet P. said
766 days ago
My 2007 650i repeatedly has problems with the top, and now the computer went dark. I only have 47K miles. This is ridiculous!


gary l. said
766 days ago
I have 2005 mini cooper that has a top that failed also. Dealership states they need over $6,000 to make the repair for a failed latch mechanism.


A. I. said
765 days ago
Thank God for the internet and Bobby P. I bought a certified pre-owned 2008 BMW M6 Convertible with 57k on the odometer last year from BMW. Within weeks of driving it the convertible top stopped functioning in the down position and it was my luck that it rained heavily that evening. I managed to cover the car with a tarp and had BMW roadside assist tow it to the dealership the next morning. They replaced the hydraulic unit at that time which I was told is a $3000.00 fix had it not been under warranty. Of course this didn't fix the problem. The top is still extremely finicky and works when it wants. I had resigned to leaving the car in my backyard as the light had been flashing red and the top wouldn't go down as of a few days ago and of course the trunk would only open with the key. Upon reading the article about the class action suit against BMW and the attached responses I went out to my car and tried Bobby P's fix. It worked like immediately like a dream. I couldn't believe it. While I'm happy that the top is working, I've completely lost confidence in BMW as a quality car manufacturer. The SMG transmission in my M6 failed on the last day of the warranty and because I didn't bring the car in until the next day, BMW refused to cover it fully and I wound up shelling out $6700.00 to replace it. The service manager at BMW even said that in his opinion "the car is garbage". Really too bad for all those kids out there who spend all their savings to buy one of these things and can't afford to repair them when they frequently break.


Daryl B. said
761 days ago
I have 2007 650I windows will not go up top will not open!! All windows are stuck in the down position.


Jason R. said
754 days ago
2006 650 Convertible with same problem related to "convertible top not locked" alarms. Have had it into the dealership several times. Seems there is no permanent fix to this poor design. The feature where the alarm rolls down the windows and locks them in an open position is a safety hazard.


Amber B. said
753 days ago
I have a 2007 650i . This sensor is making me crazy!


Jermaine J. said
748 days ago


Cyrus J. said
741 days ago
I am having the same problem with my 2007 650i bmw


rick c. said
735 days ago
Windows stuck halfway and message on screen says top not locked.


Christopher C. said
733 days ago
I am having the same issue with my 2005 BMW 645ci. The information from Bobby P seems to work, but just like he said, this is only temporary and if this is a all around problem with all of their vehicles, it needs to be repaired justly.


rick c. said
731 days ago
2007 650 in the shop at Stevens Creek BMW, San Jose/Sant Clara CA. I have gktten called 2 times i. Two days telling me they cant locate the problem yet. Telling me "the computer " can't find the problem. Its upsetting now because one of the calls was asking for aother $210 to continue diagnosis on the problem. No fix yet.


Jerome R. said
730 days ago
Rick C., I feel your pain. I have a 2005 645ci with similar problems. I wrote to the BMW CCA asking for their help and pointing to this website so they could see the magnitude of the convertible top problems. Unfortunately, BMW CCA blew me off and suggested I talk to my dealer's service manager or contact BMW NA on my own. When I talked to my local dealer (Melbourne BMW) service manager, he basically blew me off too by saying they could probably analyze and repair the problem for less than $500.00 but I knew better! So, I elected to have my local independent shop take care of my baby. There were two issues with my convertible top - 1) the mechanism that raises and lowers the rear window had to be replaced and 2) the sensor in the convertible top had to be replaced. It cost about $1,000 to resolve my convertible top issues and I imagine I saved at least $1,000 by NOT going to a BMW dealer. Considering the number of complaints about convertible top operation problems with the 6 series, I am hugely disappointed that the BMW CCA was not helpful and that BMW continues to ignore us. I love my car but I doubt I will buy another BMW because BMW, my BMW dealer, and the BMW CCA have no interest in addressing an obvious design flaw. What happened to the fabled BMW customer service? Apparently BMW caused customer service and loyalty to die so it can save some money and announce higher EPS. Hmm, I wonder if BMW wrote off part of the value of "Good Will" in its financial statements? Nah, no way!


Angela S. said
723 days ago
Same issue, 2006 650i. Top gets stuck and the windows will not open. It was so hot today and my top would not open, the windows would not open and the A/C took forever to come on and cool the car off. I thought I was going to pass out riding down the road. This is so wrong for a car that costs this much to have this kind of issue and the company will not take responsibility for their screw up. Screw up one time - shame on me, screw up a second time - Oh - No way, there won't be a second time!!!!!!!!!


Murray H. said
722 days ago
Same issue on 2007 650i. In for repairs before warranty expired but never fixed properly. After warranty had expired local dealer repaired on "goodwill" and replaced rotational sensor. That was in May 2013 but repair did not last and every time car is parked in sun the "top not locked" alarm comes on. Car has been with dealer for the past week and Service Advisor" just told me they want to "try" another sensor replacement at my expense with no guarantee that will work. Spoke with BMW Customer Relations and a "Resolution" specialist who told me BMW will not pay or assist on this repair. They will not even acknowledge that this is a widespread problem with this Series of BMW. Has this class action launched. Someone needs to go after BMW to get this resolved for all 6 series owners!


Derrick D. said
719 days ago
My convertible top stopped working with the error "Convertible top not locked." Remote trunk release stopped working, too.


Madison C. said
707 days ago
My husband bought me a BMW 650i convertible. A month ago I tried to close the convertible top and the back window stayed stuck open. It will not close and the trunk will not open. My dash keeps reading, "reduce speed! Top is not locked." I can't get it to open at all. Can not drive the car in the rain because the back window is wide open. I got caught out in the rain last week with this damn car and the back seat got wet, what's worse is that it caused a short that the car started dialing BMW "on star system". I had to explain to the rep that my car was experiencing an electrical short and is failing on its own. The dealer want $6,000 to repair it! I want to trade this car in but we owe more money than it is worth. BMW (bring money withu). Will never get this brand again.


Madison C. said
707 days ago
My husband bought me a BMW 650i convertible. A month ago I tried to close the convertible top and the back window stayed stuck open. It will not close and the trunk will not open. My dash keeps reading, "reduce speed! Top is not locked." I can't get it to open at all. Can not drive the car in the rain because the back window is wide open. I got caught out in the rain last week with this damn car and the back seat got wet, what's worse is that it caused a short that the car started dialing BMW "on star system". I had to explain to the rep that my car was experiencing an electrical short and is failing on its own. The dealer want $6,000 to repair it! I want to trade this car in but we owe more money than it is worth. BMW (bring money withu). Will never get this brand again.


Bill B. said
706 days ago
I have a 2007 M6 Individual, the limited build of only 50 of these cars at $139,000 per car and I cannot believe that the roof problem is in what is apparently an extremely well built and engineered car! Same problem, I usually get out and hit the sensor and it works again for a while..Sad, and very frustrating!


George M. said
704 days ago
Here it is again - This works for me every time! On the drivers side of the car between the main rear window and smaller window, push lightly on the convertible top near the middle from the interior. Red light goes away and the top is working again. follow the instructions on the link:

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6137928&postcount=120


clint l. said
701 days ago
I experience the same -- top would not function properly.


dee l. said
698 days ago
Experiencing the same problem here with my 2010 650i convertible . Dont even have 20k miles. Message saying top is unlocked and back window wont close. Gotta call bmw, warranty just expired in May. Wish me luck.


jason p. said
697 days ago
I am also having issues with my top


Jerome R. said
697 days ago
I contacted one of the more notorious and successful "ambulance chaser" type of attorney partnerships. Unfortunately, they were not interested in this issue or class action so it appears we are on our own. As I previously commented, I used my local, non-dealership, independent BMW garage to correct my convertible top operation. They replaced the mechanism that raises and lowers the rear window and that helped a lot but I still encountered occasional issues with closing the top. The garage then used some type of equipment that indicated one of the convertibler top sensors was bad. After replacing that "bad" sensor, the convertible top has operated correctly. Total convertible top operation repairs totaled about $1,000.


Jeff P. said
696 days ago
Frustrating not feeling secure operating the top. Have had the sensor adjusted and still get intermittent and temporary problems with the false messages and failure to close.


Eric W. said
690 days ago
I have found that pushing on the sensor in the driver side rear pillar alleviates the problem. Every time.


Simpson . said
690 days ago
Glad to know im not alone..my windows are stuck half way right now and im headed to Fields BMW for the 4th time with same issue with convertible top...smh


Frank E. said
680 days ago
2004 645ci same issue: top does not go down.


said
677 days ago
2008 650i same problem, what's the solution?


Joaquin P. said
676 days ago
I am encountering this very issue now with my 2005 E46 M3 Convertible, top will not close all the way. Tried to do it manually & nothing.


TJ M. said
671 days ago
Same problem


Mike W. said
669 days ago
I'm have the same issue with my 2005 BMW 645ci.. The top is closed but the rear window fails to open and the trunk doesn't open with out the key. The hotel/valet key near the rear cup holder doesn't work either.


James B. said
668 days ago
I had the same issue with my 2006 BMW 650i.. The top was closed and everything was fine Sunday night, the temperature dropped to 50 degrees that night the dealer said and Monday morning the dash said convertible top not locked, reduce speed. I tried to close it and the windows all came half way down and then nothing would move, not the top or the windows. I drove it to the dealer and they said because of the temperature change they would have to align the top and that would take 3 to 4 hours of labor. They fix it and now it works, that was two days ago. 9/21/2015.


Sandro L. said
667 days ago
I am having same and similar issues with my 2005 BMW 645Ci convertible top


said
661 days ago
2007 650i. Same, Same. I particularly resent my dealer pretending that it never heard of this problem before.


edward b. said
655 days ago
yes no


said
651 days ago
I am having this same issue and brought my 2007 650 into dealer several times. Issue never solved.


said
651 days ago
I have a 2007 650i with same issue. Brought to dealer several times to no avail.


Tim P. said
641 days ago
I have a 2007 BMW 650 I can I'm having the same problems also when I put my convertible down it locks halfway I can't get my top to come back up the light comes on I can't open the back of my trunk unless I use my key I find the dealership so many times and no one is done nothing about it also my convertible top is not lined up right in the side of my convertible top is ripping


Tim . said
640 days ago
I am also having the same problems that they are stating above light keep blinking top want go down keep saying convertible top emerge with the lil sign windows stuck this is very disappointing


said
636 days ago


Kenneth j. said
633 days ago
Just bored BMW 645 on my third time and putting my top down I had the problem I see now that is a bigger problem than just my does anyone know of any fix besides spending $6,000


Kenneth j. said
633 days ago
Just bored BMW 645 on my third time and putting my top down I had the problem I see now that is a bigger problem than just my does anyone know of any fix besides spending $6,000


Jerome R. said
633 days ago
Find an independent BMW repair mechanic to repair the problem. It cost me about $1,000 to make the two repairs required to correct the problems and put the convertible top in proper working order.


Easter S. said
617 days ago


keith d. said
617 days ago
Have the same issue M6 2007. Dealer says $1000 for sensor. This car has cost me a fortune to own. Saw a 2006 650 convertible trade for $8500 yesterday. What a piece of shit.


Jerome R. said
616 days ago
Keith D, I appreciate your frustration but I disagree that the 6 series is a bad car. I have a 2005 645 convertible that I bought when it was about 1 1/2 years old and the only problem I have experienced is the convertible top issue and that is very good for a 11 year old car. I plan to keep my car until I cannot drive and then I'll pass it to my son. I absolutely love the car and I still get a goofy grin when I drive it. I had my convertible top operation resolved at my local independent European automotive mechanic. He had to replace a couple of items that had failed and it cost me about $1,000 for parts and labor.


ron f. said
613 days ago
My top would stop halfway and would not move its got a mind of its on...


Stephen L. said
612 days ago
I too have an 05 645ci mint condition and pampered. Never had an issue with the top until yesterday. Nice day last drive with top down and it happens. Top is not locked rear window will not move and trunk will not open without key. Do you think it's the sensor?


Marcelino R. said
612 days ago
Yes, I have this same issue....my top has left me stranded numerous times. I still own the car, I just can't put the top or roll the windows down. terrible in the summer time


Marcelino R. said
612 days ago
Yes, I have this same issue....my top has left me stranded numerous times. I still own the car, I just can't put the top or roll the windows down. terrible in the summer time


Marcelino R. said
612 days ago
Yes, I have this same issue....my top has left me stranded numerous times. I still own the car, I just can't put the top or roll the windows down. terrible in the summer time


Stephen L. said
612 days ago
Does anyone know which sensor is the issue?


Stephen L. said
612 days ago
Folks, I was just on bummer fest, and I have fixed my problem. My conv top rear window and trunk release failed to work and conv top not locked alarm would sound. This gentleman had the same problem and a quick fix to get back into action is to push down on a sensor on the drivers side and or passenger side . The sensor is in the middle of the rag top inside behind driver between rear passenger window and trunk. Start car and just feel around mechanism and push down. Gently is all that was needed. Everything is working now.


Luis R. said
605 days ago
My 2005 convertible has the same problem ....


CRAIG K. said
587 days ago
I have a 2005 645ci, The top is locked but It has the blinking red light and won't let me open it, my trunk will not open either, only by key. When I hit 20MPH the warning light comes on and dings that top is not locked.


dwayne a. said
578 days ago
i just got a 2010 m6 and I'm having radio issues where the radio doesn't give sound and I'm hearing its from a know drainage issue that BMW should make the customers aware of. Brought car to dealer and they want to charge to diagnose the radio, car has 28,000k miles and barely driven. I called up BMW North America and made them aware of issue only to get the run around, but pictures and paperwork will get BMW North America to investigate the issue and proceed with the recall, cause I had issues with heated seats burning thru the leather or 2004 645i and they proceeded to rectify that quickly with me signing a disclosure to not speak about issue after they changed seat and paid for my burnt clothing.


Nassir G. said
577 days ago
Have the same issue, BMW Service advisor indicates there are no Recalls for this issue


nashelle r. said
575 days ago
Same problem 08 650i


Dan M. said
574 days ago
Same issue with my 2009 650i


P R. said
572 days ago
Same issue 2005 645Ci and getting no response from the dealership and I have a warranty.


Michelle B. said
569 days ago
I just leased a 2006 650i convertible . I've been having he issue since I first got the car and the dealer refuses to help in any way. I live in Las Vegas it's SOOOO cold out here in the winter . My windows are stuck half way down and are unable to roll up. It's so frustrating . I can't even drive my car .


randy w. said
562 days ago
I have the same issue. 2005 BMW 645


William R M. said
561 days ago
My 2008 650i convertable top shows premature signs of wear.


Stephan H. said
558 days ago
Same issue here with my 2007 BMW 650i convertible. Such a frustrating problem when you have very beautiful car you want enjoy and the problem keeps occurring. It would seem that BMW would have an easy fix or solution besides rubbing the sensor.


Richard M. said
557 days ago
I have the same problem. 2007 BMW M6 with 35K. Top won't go down, trunk wont open, rear windows won't go down, wipers don't work, interior lights don't work.


Jerry B. said
539 days ago
I'm having the same problem, windows will not roll up, the top will not come off... very frustrating ...


Marc W. said
533 days ago
Sad to say I am in the same boat. Convertible top light blinking unlocked, windows won't go up. Sucks to be me right now. 2007 650i 61,000 mi., loving the car otherwise.


said
532 days ago
Same problem convrtible top wont go down red ligth blinking trunk wont open.


khalid s. said
529 days ago
so nice


khalid s. said
529 days ago
2005 645i top with same problem, $2000.00 cost.It's sad that so many people believe in a company that doesn't place their concerns and problems first. Way to go BMW!


Richard K. said
522 days ago
2005 645ci - years and years of problems, attempted fixes under warranty, $1,000's in post warranty repairs. I thought it was bad when the top wouldn't go down.... Now it won't go up once it's down. THAT's a REAL problem!


kimberly m. said
521 days ago
My convertible top will close only about half way and stop it will go back down but has to be manually closed with the BMW provided tool. I don't know what to do as the dealer has looked at it twice.


Tony J. said
518 days ago


Nora B. said
517 days ago


Monroe W. said
517 days ago
Same issues....


Sheldon p. said
516 days ago
I've had this same issue , the blinking light went off and the back window didn't go down, THE BACK WINDOWS SHATTERED!!!!! ok enough is enough. Bmw just don't care about their PAST , So we as consumers we should NOT care about their FUTURE! !!!!!!!


Joe V. said
511 days ago
2007 M6. 22,000 miles and 10,000 of them driving with convertable top problems. BMW should be ashamed of their service and customer satisfaction record regarding this problem associated with all of their convertable top cars. As noted in these posts and other forums regarding the TOP NOT LOCKED problems, it is an ongoing issue which needs resolution. $100,000.00 for a car that I can not enjoy. The Ultimate Driving Machine? I think not


Joe V. said
511 days ago
2007 M6. 22,000 miles and 10,000 of them driving with convertable top problems. BMW should be ashamed of their service and customer satisfaction record regarding this problem associated with all of their convertable top cars. As noted in these posts and other forums regarding the TOP NOT LOCKED problems, it is an ongoing issue which needs resolution. $100,000.00 for a car that I can not enjoy. The Ultimate Driving Machine? I think not


Taron S. said
508 days ago
I brought my 2004 645ci a year and a half ago, I been having problems from the jump with my top. one weekend I was visiting my 4yr daughter, who loves to ride with the top down and raise her arms in the air, as if she's riding a fun ride. A storm comes up and my top wouldn't come up. I made it to a gas station, after a few mins. it came up. NOW IT WON'T GO NOW DOWM!!!!!!! WOW..


Dao S. said
504 days ago
I too just recently purchased a 2007 650I and quickly noticed the same convertable top issue that everyone is describing. First I was told it was a defective battery, which made little sense, but I had BMW replace the battery nevertheless. Days later it was back. Took it in again and now its the Rotational Sensor. I told them to leave it alone until they figure out what it truly is. Didn't realize it was a common problem. Has anyone ever had this thing correctly diagnosed and repaired? If so, what was the diagnosis?


Dao S. said
504 days ago
I too just recently purchased a 2007 650I and quickly noticed the same convertable top issue that everyone is describing. First I was told it was a defective battery, which made little sense, but I had BMW replace the battery nevertheless. Days later it was back. Took it in again and now its the Rotational Sensor. I told them to leave it alone until they figure out what it truly is. Didn't realize it was a common problem. Has anyone ever had this thing correctly diagnosed and repaired? If so, what was the diagnosis?


Lorenzo C. said
501 days ago
Same exact issue in my 2004 645ci. 66,000 miles. Engine is perfect, but the top wont go down, rear window is stuck and wont go up even with the allen wrench tool. Red light blinks, trunk wont open remotely anymore and I am tired of this car costing me so much money. So sad BMW won't acknowledge this.


Jeana G. said
501 days ago
I have a 2007 BMW 650 and I have paid to correct this exact issue three times already and within 6 months of th last repair I am again in the same situation of needing another repair, same error message and windows locked halfway down. I have had several bmw's and this has been the worst issue I have ever had.


Allen G. said
501 days ago
I have a 2005 645ci,I have the same issue, my top gets stuck either up,or down with the flashing light of top not locked,can trunk remote don't work. I've researched the problem and found that it could be multiple sensors in the top.... Ive also connect to a scanner and it doesn't pinpoint which one. The Dealer wants me to drop off and pay X amount of dollars to check....But after reading the stories of those who did and still having problems, Doesn't sit well with me.


Ursula H. said
498 days ago
I have a 2008 650i and having the same problem with "convertible top not locked", trunk is not opening, and windows are half-way down. I had my mechanic reset the error message several times but it occurred again and now more frequently. It sometimes rains in Texas and this issue is not acceptable!


Susan B. said
497 days ago
Same problem ever since I purchased. I have had the arms on the top replaced and also the sensor. Fixed several times under warranty and out of warranty and it's still a crapshoot if it will work.My mechanic even talked to BMW in Germany and they said the sensor is very sensitive. You think!! They don't really care about the problem. Seems to work better on sunny days but for how much that car cost this shouldn't be an issue at all.


Bernard T. said
491 days ago
I have 2008 650i it just recently started so I had to secure my top manually and the back window will not got up. after reading all this Im disgusted.
exact same issue !


Sheila R. said
487 days ago
I have a 2005 645ci with the same issue. Fortunately I was able to manually secure my top with all of my windows up. The flashing light and system warnings are very annoying and also happens when the top is up and left in direct sunlight during summer in AZ.


erika h. said
487 days ago
same issue with my 650i 2006! very, very frustrating! ! clearly this is an issue. my car stayed in the shop while under warranty and now I'm paying for an issue that was never properly repaired. how do we start a class action? this site ridiculous .


allen c. said
485 days ago
Having the issue with my top going down on my 2006 BMW 650i


allen c. said
485 days ago
Having the issue with my top going down on my 2006 BMW 650i


Francis s. said
478 days ago
I have a 2008 650i convertible with the same issue. I'm beginning to think bmw is a scam taking money from its costumers willfully. There should be a class action suit against them also for their logic 7 amplifier that's nothing but trouble, continuous replacement.


MILTON L. said
468 days ago
Same issues. I have a 2005 645ci. BMW will repair for about $ 5,000. That is " B S".


MILTON L. said
468 days ago
Same issues. I have a 2005 645ci. BMW will repair for about $ 5,000. That is " B S".


Neebal A. said
467 days ago
HI , I recently purchased a 2006 bmw 650i , I am facing same problem, Although its locked fine. when i attempt to open the convertible, it opens the windows half way then the damn red light starts blinking and windows and evrything locks. I think that hitting that magic spot might work as i saw the previous owner do it, however im afraid to try it. I live in dubai and its going to get pretty damn hot soon. Not sure what to do... Oh and btw make sure that the luggage compartment lever is closed in the trunk, otherwise the roof will not close. I read that in a forum and it was one of the problems i faced earlier.


Atul K. said
466 days ago


Atul K. said
466 days ago


Atul K. said
466 days ago


Brad G. said
465 days ago
I also have a 2006 650! and It is driving me crazy!!! BMW needs to step up and fix this issue or I will never purchase another one and will sell the 3 I have. I was going to buy my son one for his BDay, but It isn't happening!!


Rodney S. said
464 days ago
I own a 2006 650i the same thing happen to me but my top cut some wires not allowing it to close or open and also just a few days ago opening the top the top Sheard some sort of panel off during the opening of my top damn what next.


Dale T. said
460 days ago
Same problem. They need to fix this.


Dale T. said
460 days ago
Same problem. They need to fix this.


Jon S. said
459 days ago
We have a 2007 650 the sensor has been replaced 3 times. Our dealer told us if it breaks again we will need to buy a new top.


Joey L. said
456 days ago
Same blinking sound on my 06 650i convertible about top not locked. It's been 10 years .. make us proud BMW


Bryan I. said
455 days ago
2008 BMW 650i, I am having same problem and had it repaired once, still having problem. thanks


johnny m. said
455 days ago
I have an 06 bmw 650 the top will not go down , I have been drivthe car the last 3 days with the windows frozen down, what a mess , I'm ready to sue to get it fixed
Johnny


D W. said
452 days ago
Having issue with my 2007 650i also. Convertible stuck down and will not come up. Back window is stuck also


james t. said
452 days ago
Having the same problem the difference is the back glass shatterd an broke top wont come up. BMW dealership out source the work now charging 6,000. what can i do about this issue.


Pete S. said
444 days ago
Issue started today in my 2005 645ci for the second time in two years. The last time I paid $2600 to replace sensors but it seems that every summer it occurs again. Unfortunately, I can't afford to fix it now and I guess I will not be using my top this year and deal with the annoying top not closed warning. I just want to disconnect all the sensors. I'm outside of my warranty anyway.


Kayhan D. said
443 days ago
I also have 2005 BMW 645ci and I have the same issue I can't open the top the car has only 52 000 km on it ,I was told that it will cost over $2000 to fix it


Michael M. said
443 days ago
Same issue here with my 2007 650i. Passenger window will not come up and at times the top will not go down. Very disappointing.


Bruno D. said
443 days ago
Same here, 2010 630i E64 (euro). When the car sits in the sun, the red light starts blinking and the car 'thinks' the top is not properly locked. 2nd issue: when driving the car in hot weather with the top down, the top won't fully close (it stops about an inch above the top of the windscreen). Probable cause: poorly designed rotational sensor.


Ken M. said
433 days ago
I have a 2004, main difference is I drive mine. Been very happy with it and the biggest difference is I use a mechanic that specializes in BMW's but not the dealership. I have been to 3 dealerships in the past, all of them fail to fix anything. My mechanic does great work at a fair price. So after 176,000 miles my top has failed to close for the first time. I will take it to him and see what a true professional can do. After seeing all these comments it will be interesting to hear his view point. Most websites that have addressed this problem all have owners who play with the sensor on the drivers side around the back window, those who wiggle the wires or even slap the sensor all swear it works and for those of you who do not have your own mechanics outside of a dealership I would suggest trying it.


Myra S. said
430 days ago
I'm having the same problems with my top. I own a 2006 650i convertible and the windows are stuck in a down position and will not move. The red warning light is flashing and the top will not go down. I've had previous problems with this convertible and do not understand WHY BMW hasn't stepped up to the plate to repair this problem via recall. I want to join the Class Action lawsuit.


said
425 days ago
2008 m6 top problem and high emissions problems


sam H. said
418 days ago
same issues on 2008 850 i


sam H. said
418 days ago
same issues on 2008 850 i


Refugio G. said
416 days ago
I have the same problem and I have a 2005 645 that my top will not go down anymore.. So annoying


Joseph W. said
412 days ago
Same problem with 2007 650i


Mike F. said
407 days ago
Same problem with our 2006 650i.


Ulysses S. said
406 days ago
same problem with my 2004 645 ci. red light blinking and top is half open


Grace C. said
404 days ago
WOW, I am stunned as I thought I was the only one with this issue! I went to BMW last week and they never mentioned this was an ongoing problem. They suggest I can try another battery for $500 first as a process of elimination.
I held off yesterday after reading this. I have someone else looking into it today but after reading this it sounds like a waste of time.


said
403 days ago
I have a '06 650i and I received the error msg today. I'd received it last winter when I was simply letting up my windows but it went away once I turned off the car and restarted. But no such luck today as I actually had just closed the top.. But now my windows are down


Dale S. said
401 days ago
Same issue with my 2008 650i.....


Allen G. said
400 days ago
Update, I've purchased a new position sensor for my top, work OK for about a month or so, but guess what???.....THE SAME DA#N PROBLEM, BMW Should own up for this and not us owners..


Ronald B. said
396 days ago


Mariusz A. said
394 days ago
Everyone only complains what is totally unproductive. Any solutions? I suspect wiring system or bad contact rather than sensor itself.


Mariusz A. said
394 days ago
Everyone only complains what is totally unproductive. Any solutions? I suspect wiring system or bad contact rather than sensor itself.


Richard H. said
394 days ago
Same problem with my 2006 650i. Only has 66k miles -


SHAWN G. said
390 days ago
I have a 2007 650i with only 22k miles on it. This car gets totally babied and I'm having the same problems with my top not wanting to go down.


daniel a. said
390 days ago
I HAVE HAD A FEW ISSUES BUT NOT SURE WHAT IT IS . MABY GETTING READY TO START. THE WIFE COULD NOT GET IT TO LOCK.


Rachel G. said
388 days ago
My 2005 mini cooper convertible has the same issue, and Mini wants to charge $3000 and replace the top. This issue happened without any known reason on my part, and I take more than proper care of my car. My car is my baby. I just can't believe how prevalent this issue is to BMW/Mini Cooped Convertible owners. This really needs attention!


James B. said
387 days ago
I have a 2006 650i with the same problem, have had it aligned and sensor replaced by dealer and they wrote right on the receipt that problem will reaccure. dash says convertible top not locked, convertible top! reduce speed. and if you move the lever on the sensor to try to get the top to go done it will say convertible top emergency ???


James B. said
387 days ago
I have a 2006 650i with the same problem, have had it aligned and sensor replaced by dealer and they wrote right on the receipt that problem will reaccure. dash says convertible top not locked, convertible top! reduce speed. and if you move the lever on the sensor to try to get the top to go done it will say convertible top emergency ???


james t. said
387 days ago
Im having the same issues with my 645ci bmw im having troubles with the convertible top going up.an down. My back window was broken and the convertible top not going back up. An the glass shop can not install the glass. I dont know what to.do.


james t. said
387 days ago
Im having the same issues with my 645ci bmw im having troubles with the convertible top going up.an down. My back window was broken and the convertible top not going back up. An the glass shop can not install the glass. I dont know what to.do.


james t. said
387 days ago
Im having the same issues with my 645ci bmw im having troubles with the convertible top going up.an down. My back window was broken and the convertible top not going back up. An the glass shop can not install the glass. I dont know what to.do.


Monique . said
378 days ago
Same problem. 2006 650i 40k miles.


Yaybus M. said
377 days ago
You guys on here complaining, are all definitely gay. How comes nobody has posted a solution?? Just moan, moan, moan since this issue was first posted back in 2013! You're all a bunch of whining, unhelpful twats.


William C. S. said
376 days ago
I have payed too much money to have problems over & over again with My Convertible top!


Original A. said
373 days ago
EASY FIX::: I EXPERIENCE THIS FROM TIME TO TIME, WHAT IM ABOUT TO TELL YOU WORKS!!! YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE REAR OF THE TOP JUS LEFT OVER THE REAR DRIVER SIDE AND PLAY WITH THE SOFT TOP, SHAKE SOME STUFF UP IN THERE AND EVENTUALLY WHEN U HIT THAT SPOT THE PROBLEM SUBSIDES.


Auddie S. said
369 days ago
I have a 650i and I'm having the same issue my top is locked but my back window will not com up. This has happened many times. I love bmw but if this is happening constantly it will be the last one i buy. This is rediculouse.


Marcus N. said
367 days ago


Marcus N. said
367 days ago
I am having the same issue.


charlie d. said
366 days ago
i'm having the same issue now it wont latch it does nothing just the red light keeps flashing


Andy palans . said
364 days ago
I paid over 900 dollars to fix the same situation


sam i. said
364 days ago
same issue


Nick S. said
364 days ago
I just had the same issue. As a previous commenter said. I hit the back driver side corner past the rear window and it started working again! Great advise, saved me thousands I'm sure!


Robin P. said
362 days ago


Nicholas T. said
357 days ago
It just happened to me two days ago. The "Convertible Top Not Locked" warning came on, my windows are stuck half way, and my trunk cannot be opened.


Brian H. said
355 days ago
I have a 2008 650i with the same problem.


Carolyn M. said
353 days ago
Without warning the top was working and then refused to go up!


Jason W. said
353 days ago
2005 bmw 645 with 61k miles...
Trunk won't unlock and top won't go down.
Flashing light.
Would like to be a part of this class action suit


said
350 days ago
There is a solution... There is a wire about the size of 1/4 of an inch thickness. Its located on drivers side.. 2 inches Above rear window about the middle of the rear widow and feel for it about 2inches above that area thru the liner material... Jiggle the write around and then try to close the top...


Michael W. said
344 days ago
I have the same exact problem with my 2007 BMW 650I.


Mark P. said
339 days ago
I have same issue as all. Really a pain that my back window wont go up when this happens. Has the class action suit started?


John R. said
338 days ago
I have a 2008 m6 this morning I had the same problem that everyone has had. without warning the back window would not go up or down. I see the message top not locked so of course I try to drop the top hoping it will fix the glitch boy was I wrong now my top is half way stuck. got on the web to see if anybody has had any issue and I find out that I am not the only one. I tried rubbing the sensor and it worked. I also had the SMG. transmission fixed and another sensor fixed. Had the battery replaced and alternator I have spent a fortune on this car I am ready to trade it in. I WILL NEVER BUY A BMW AGAIN .....


William C. S. said
337 days ago
I'm William III & I own a 2K5 bmw 645ci with MAJOR top issues! How can I join this class-action case?


Jeffrey B. said
335 days ago
BMW M6 convertible with warning lights stating that the top is not licked. Windows are open and won't 46k miles.


Geoffrey E. said
329 days ago
Every time it get hot outside the top won't open


Marlon H. said
327 days ago
I have a 07 BMW 650i doing the same thing. This is a lemon and the Lemon Law should apply on these cars. It seems as if BMW has our government in their back pockets. With Toyota bad brakes they recalled I think over a million cars, Firestone bad tires, etc., but how's BMW getting away with this for years. We the owners need to stand together on this issue, because there's power in numbers and get the job done, even if we have to get a partition started.


Marlon H. said
327 days ago
I have a 07 BMW 650i doing the same thing. This is a lemon and the Lemon Law should apply on these cars. It seems as if BMW has our government in their back pockets. With Toyota bad brakes they recalled I think over a million cars, Firestone bad tires, etc., but how's BMW getting away with this for years. We the owners need to stand together on this issue, because there's power in numbers and get the job done, even if we have to get a partition started.


Marlon H. said
327 days ago
I have a 07 BMW 650i doing the same thing. This is a lemon and the Lemon Law should apply on these cars. It seems as if BMW has our government in their back pockets. With Toyota bad brakes they recalled I think over a million cars, Firestone bad tires, etc., but how's BMW getting away with this for years. We the owners need to stand together on this issue, because there's power in numbers and get the job done, even if we have to get a partition started.


Terence Y. said
322 days ago
I have 2005 645ci that's doing the same thing. Can not get into the trunk at times unless the car feels like it. I bought this car about 3 months ago, if I had heard about the problems this car had back then, as much as I love the car and the looks, I wouldn't have bought it. If and when a class action suit is filed, count me in. I am calling BBB as well.


Michelle V. said
321 days ago
my 2007 bmw 650i also shows the warning message top is no closed and or locked and the bell warning god off. the trunk won't work when this happens and the light blinks nothing i do remedies the problem. this is the reason we bought the car so we would have a nice sporty convert to use>> bull shit there is no recall.


Donald P. said
320 days ago
I have a 2004 BMW 645ci. I am having g that issue with my top. It does not close. I have to try different methods to close it. It makes it where I can't drive my car sometimes. I can't sell it with this defect.


Brian R. said
320 days ago
My 2005 645 Ci convertible has started doing the same thing. It stuck part-way closed just yesterday. i had to shut the car off, allow the rear closure to "fall" by itself, then was lucky enough to secure the top. tried again today to open and would not go less than half way open.


Karen G. said
319 days ago
I just purchased a 2007 650 I convertible11 days ago. Same problem. Convertible top not locked alarm on with closing top switch blinking red. All 4 windows locked 1/2 way down. Trunk locked. What can we do?


Karen G. said
319 days ago
I just purchased a 2007 650 I convertible11 days ago. Same problem. Convertible top not locked alarm on with closing top switch blinking red. All 4 windows locked 1/2 way down. Trunk locked. What can we do?


Jacqueline L. said
315 days ago
I have the same issue and dealership service manager was very rude and disrespectful at Vista BMW. They would not even acknowledge that there's a problem much less try to resolve it.


Jacqueline L. said
315 days ago
I have the same issue and dealership service manager was very rude and disrespectful at Vista BMW. They would not even acknowledge that there's a problem much less try to resolve it.


james d. said
312 days ago
2010 650ci same problems


George M. said
305 days ago
Here it is again - This works for me every time! On the drivers side of the car between the main rear window and smaller window, push lightly on the convertible top near the middle from the interior. Red light goes away and the top is working again. follow the instructions on the link:

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6137928&postcount=120


ezequiel d. said
296 days ago


Michael C. said
295 days ago
As frustration as this issue has been, that fix was extremely helpful. Thank you!


Michael G. said
280 days ago
I have had my 2007 top repaired 4 times, its always the same part, 3 were under warranty and the fourth they wanted to charge me but I reminded them that they guarantee their parts for a year, now the lid wont raise up, it is very frustrating as I only have 79000 miles on it. bmw is off of my list for new cars.


Lynda C. said
276 days ago
My 2007 Mini Cooper convertible roof wouldn't close recently and I was quoted $2950 to repair the problem. The dealer repair shop wrote on an invoice for another repair, "found wire harness for convertible top and stowage locks to be defective. Pulled Faults, FC29, ran test plan found locks not working properly. Checked wire harness found pinched when opening." I'm waiting until spring to fix it.


Karl K. said
268 days ago
2010 BMW 650i 32,500 miles babied car only weekend driver. The top constantly malfunctions information panel states emergency stoppage usually will not open. Red light blinks I have on several occasions open the trunk and played with the room manager open and released.


Andrea D. said
265 days ago


Cynthia H. said
261 days ago
2007 Mini Cooper that I thought was in excellent condition. I was just told by my local dealership the driver side cable broke and would cost $1800. I want to cry, my reason for getting the car is to ride with top down.


Andre Y. said
236 days ago
2007 M6 65k miles. Top will not open and all windows are down. All of the windows are inoperable and are not able to go up. Keep getting the convertible top not locked alert, with flashing red light by convertible top buttons. Very frustrating to deal with!


said
206 days ago
Yes my 2005 645ci is doing the same thing


Richard H. said
199 days ago
My wife's 2004 645ci is doing the exact same thing.


willie c. said
196 days ago
Yes having the same problem.. 2008 650i


John P. said
194 days ago
2005 645ci same mechanical defect.


SHAWN G. said
189 days ago
I have a 2007 650i with 26k miles. Same problem. Took it to the dealership and then it decided to work. Got home and it started acting up again. I'm just gonna go park at the dealership and let it up and down until it acts up. Then have the warranty company to deal with them.


Jerome B. said
185 days ago
I have a 2005 645ci convertible.Top up but not locked.Red light blinks...top not closed.Cannot open trunk!!!


Thomas D. said
163 days ago
I have a 2006 650i convertible with this exact same problem. I have replaced both position sensors and now the top will not move at all. This is an extremely frustrating issue.


Bill A. said
162 days ago
I'm now having the same problem with my 2005 645ci. BMW knows very well about the issue but wont fix it!! So SAD BMW, where's your empathy for those of us stuck with your design flaw?
( ( 8 sensors in the top ! really? what were the engineers thinking) I guess they will wait until they are sued for liability. This will be the last BMW I'll ever own. This problem is well known and all over the internet. No wonder all Cabs in Germany are Mercedes , they actually service their customers.


Bill A. said
162 days ago
I'm now having the same problem with my 2005 645ci. BMW knows very well about the issue but wont fix it!! So SAD BMW, where's your empathy for those of us stuck with your design flaw?
( ( 8 sensors in the top ! really? what were the engineers thinking) I guess they will wait until they are sued for liability. This will be the last BMW I'll ever own. This problem is well known and all over the internet. No wonder all Cabs in Germany are Mercedes , they actually service their customers.


Edward O. said
148 days ago
Same issue, roof will not open or close or lock. Tried Allen key to lock. Did not work on my 2005 645ci Bmw. Very dangerious


Clara P. said
127 days ago


troy a. said
103 days ago
Was this resolved?
What did BMW do about it?
I just bought a 2007 6 series, with very low miles, same kind of problems.


troy a. said
103 days ago
Was this resolved?
What did BMW do about it?
I just bought a 2007 6 series, with very low miles, same kind of problems.


David H. said
102 days ago
Bought a 2007 M6 days ago in showroom condition treated with kid gloves, only 60k miles. Interior and exterior - PERFECT. Runs great however...not only do I get the dread "Convertible Top Not Locked" when I haven't even used the convertible at all (this prevents trunk from opening), I also get random error messages about all gears not available, increased battery drain (this with the fully functional BMW battery and then also a BRAND NEW BATTERY) and SMG and ABS and service due errors. But I just had a BMW dealer do pre-inspection checkup and they found NOTHING wrong with the car and said it was perfectly maintained with all services at their dealership.

But the FIRST TIME I drove this car, gently, all these errors happened. Did the owner and the dealer really miss all this and it just happened to me? Suspicious a bit. But turning on and off or giving the M6 time and all errors go away, and it's like a new showroom car. But then they come back at random times.

THERE IS A CLASS ACTION LAW SUIT in the works and maybe concluded on this issue:

BMW named in class action over defective convertible tops in BMW E64 (6 Series Convertible) vehicles | Got a Class Action?
http://gotaclassaction.com/bmw-named-in-class-action-over-defective-convertible-tops-in-bmw-e64-6-series-convertible-vehicles/

US District Court for New Jersey issued an opinion that partially dismissed the class action suit but also upheld other parts of the class action suit. The decision is dated May 28, 2014 and you can read it here: http://cases.justia.com/federal/district-courts/new-jersey/njdce/2:2013cv03417/290206/21/0.pdf?ts=1411595054



Reggie A. said
96 days ago
2007 BMW M6. Indicator light blinking. All complaints seem to point to a defective design. I'm experiencing the same issues with the top not going down. It's also locked but the indicator says, unlocked. i have a 1995 Camaro that has never presented this problem. I thought this was a high end BMW?


Jerome R. said
96 days ago
Reviewing the dates on the earliest posts make it seem that there is no "class action" for our case. If anyone knows more, I'd appreciate any information you can share. I contacted one of the more successful attorneys in my area that does this kind of work and the firm declined to accept my issue.


William s. said
67 days ago
Same problem with my 07 BMW 650i convertible. The top is very problematic.water also gets in the trunk shorting out the amp.


Jerome R. said
67 days ago
It appears the Gray vs. BMW class action for the 6 series convertible top problems is going to settlement. Following is the web site to initiate a claim if you did not receive a claim form in the mail.
https://topclassactions.com/lawsuit-settlements/lawsuit-news/494840-bmw-6-series-convertible-top-settlement-gets-preliminary-approval/


STEVE G. said
48 days ago
yes I'm having that same problem...flashing light saying top is open, inside trunk release won't work, nor will key open trunk...very frustrating...can't enjoy this beautiful machine to it' s capacity ughhh!


Jerome R. said
48 days ago
Steve G, please see my comment above yours about BMW NA settling the class action.
https://topclassactions.com/lawsuit-settlements/lawsuit-news/494840-bmw-6-series-convertible-top-settlement-gets-preliminary-approval/


nunzio f. said
32 days ago
I am having exactly the same problem with my 2006 650i


nunzio f. said
32 days ago
I am having exactly the same problem with my 2006 650i


Jerome R. said
32 days ago
Munzio, please see my comment, above, about settlement of the class action so you can get reimbursed for the cost of repairs. Good luck!


Pritchard W. said
30 days ago
Yes


Arthur P. said
6 days ago
Yes I have a 2006 BMW 650i convertible and I am . See the same problem


Jerome R. said
5 days ago
I had my convertible top worked on several times and it has worked well for a while. I have submitted my repair expense documents to Braun Law Group but now I'm having more problems with opening and closing the convertible top. I appreciate any advice Braun Law Group can provide about what I should do next.


Jerome R. said
5 days ago
I had my convertible top worked on several times and it has worked well for a while. I have submitted my repair expense documents to Braun Law Group but now I'm having more problems with opening and closing the convertible top. I appreciate any advice Braun Law Group can provide about what I should do next.


James M. said
4 days ago
I intermittently have this same issue on my 2008 BMW 650i Convertible.

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